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Michael HORWATH
 1870 -

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  • Birth  Abt 1870  Krowia, , , Poland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Buried  , , , Poland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I60  Wanicki/Rozhon and Kapusta/Jemiola
    Last Modified  21 Feb 2008 12:56:24 
     
    Family  Margareta DOLKOWSKI, b. Abt 1870, , , , Poland  
    Children 
     1. Henry HORWATH
    >2. Frank Peter HORWATH, b. 15 Apr 1888, Magdalowko, , Tarnopil, Poland
    >3. Anne HORWATH, [twin], b. 11 Jul 1890, , , , Poland
     4. Magda HORWATH, [twin], b. 11 Jul 1890, Skalat, , , Poland
    >5. Agnes Jadwiga (Hedwig) HORWATH, b. 15 Oct 1891, , , , Poland
    >6. Magadalena (Margaret) HORWATH, b. 22 May 1895, Skalat, Skalaja Podol'skaja, Ternopil, Ukraine
    Family ID  F8  Group Sheet
     
  • Notes 
    • The surname was originally spelled HORWAT by this family. The ending "H" was added later.

      HORWATH origins (or Horwat or Horwatt)

      [info provided by dbabic@tethys.phy.hr]
      Many of historicians agree that a tribe of (probably) Iranian origin, named Hu-ur-vatha (probably meaning friend) came to the area around todays Krakow in 6th or early 7th century. They were asimilated by Slavs of this area, but gave their name to surrounding Slavs, and organized them in something what later in todays Croatia became a nation. It is worthwhile to note that many experts in Slavic linguistics claim that it is impossible to construct the name "Hrvat" by using solely Slavic linguistic rules.

      By the legend (mentioned also in chronicles of Constantin Porfirogenet, a Byzantium ruler) todays Croats (in Croatian - Hrvati) came to western Balkan peninsula in the first half of the 7th century, and were led by seven brothers and two sisters, of which the most important was one with the name Hrvat.

      In Croatian history, the first homeland of Croats, in south Poland, is called "White Croatia". I have found a support to this idea in one German book, where in 11th century there is "Kroatien" in todays Croatia, but also a province in Kingdom of Poland called "Chrobatien". Of course, this name for the area around Krakow ceased to exist later, and has no real meaning today. So, contrary to the Hungarian name Horvath, which is closely related to todays Croats, any north-Slavic name of this sort is just a memory on the ancient times, and cannot be related to todays Croatian nationality.

      [opposing viewpoint provided by armata@vms.cis.pitt.edu]
      I take the opposite view. Surnames developed so late in Poland, even more so for the peasants than the nobles, that I find it hard to relate a Horvath surname in Poland that was probably chosen or assigned in the late 1600-1700s to the White Croatia of 1000 years ago. As you point out, this term passed into oblivion long ago without a local trace. Also note the spelling, especially the -th ending, which is not found in Polish. For what it's worth, this looks to me like a clearly Hungarian name, referring to Croatia. That it wound up in Poland is not at all surprising, given the proximity of the 2 countries and the heavy trade they carried on in the old days (e.g., a Croatian carter named Horvath in Hungarian bringing up a wagon of Hungarian wine to Poland could have decided to stay in Poland, got married & started the line). Joe armata@vms.cis.pitt.edu

      [further thoughts provided by spiridan@ASAHI.COM.AU]
      Also, there is some evidence, of semi-legendary nature that the Hrvati, or Croats, emerged from the Bug-Dnieper-White Carpathian region at the time of the great Slavic mgrations, and part of the nation remained behind in this region, thus giving their name to place names, regions and people.


      SKALAT
      City and railway station in the Pidvolochysk district on the Hnyla river. Population: 5,000. First mentioned in documented sources in 1564.

      CASTLE, 1630. Once surrounded by a deep ditch. Towers with battlements are located on the defensive walls. Large sections of the castle have been preserved.

      1) Encyklopedia Powszechna T. 23. Rok 1866.
      2) Encyklopedia Powszechna Krowlewstwa Polskiego T. 10. Rok 1889.

      According to the 1866 "Encyklopedia Powszechna," Skalat was originally under
      Russian rule. In the second half of the nineteenth century, Skalat is under the
      jurisdiction of Galicia, near the Ganila River. An old fortress, built in the sixteenth
      century for defence purposes, made the city well-known. During this time, there
      were about 3000 residents.

      "Encyklopedia Powszechna," published in 1889, has more details about the town.
      At the end of the nineteenth century, Skalat was a district (Miasto Powiatowe) in
      eastern Galicia, southeast of Ternopol. In 1870, there were 4952 residents, 2553 of
      them Jews.

      According to Korpetnicki in "Geography of Galicia" from 1786, Skalat was the
      property of the Terlov family of Czecanowicz. The property was transferred to the
      Poniatowski princes and they sold it around 1869 to a Jew named Ziskind
      Rosenstock.

      Ziskind Rosenstock was a famous Jew in his time and a baron. One of his
      descendants, Alexander, became a Christian. He sold the Skalat lands. In 1920,
      Josef Tenenbaum bought the Novosiolka lands from him.
     

  
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